Have you ever observed individuals dancing without any audible music but sporting illuminated headphones? If so, you have witnessed a silent disco, which has been in existence for a while and is now gaining popularity. By donning headphones, one can concentrate on the music and enjoy a high-quality experience. How will this silent disco have the time of your life at your next event?
In this unique episode, we are joined by the esteemed Founder & CEO of CiferNoise Productions, Jason Gorley, who shares his insightful thoughts on silent disco. He navigates through the potential of this innovative technology, providing a brief historical background, and highlighting how it creates a distinct connection among people through the power of music.
Tune in to discover the many dimensions of silent disco and how it is transforming the way we experience music.
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Exploring the World of Silent Disco with Jason Gorley
Welcome to Action’s Antidotes, your antidote to the mindset that keeps you settling for less. For most of my life, I’ve had these competing pursuits of wanting to kind of foster people’s individuality but also build community at the same time and one of the problems I encountered was I’d always thought of these particular pursuits as competing with one another, you’re either becoming more close but becoming less individual or going in the opposite direction. My guest today is Jason Gorley of CiferNoise Productions and what they do is they do silent discos, which is one of the areas where I’ve seen people allow people to have an individual experience while also coming together.
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Jason, welcome to the program.
Hey, thanks for having me.
Yeah, no problem. Yeah, thank you for coming on. Yeah, describe the silent disco experience and what motivated you to kind of bring this into the world.
Thanks for asking. A lot of things motivated me to bring this into the world but let’s start with silence disco is it’s a unique experience that anyone can travel down with headphones but also, it’s not just wearing headphones, it’s having the options to choose what you’re listening to at a particular event. So, silent disco can have three all the way up to ten channels and each channel can be curated in a way to fit the demographic that is present within your event or any pop-up in general. You could do multiple things from movie nights to conferences to regular parties and it’s just a different way of replacing speakers and creating more of an immersive experience with your ears. How I got into it, I went to a school that partied a lot and I loved throwing parties. University of Arizona, bear down.
Oh, yeah, that is known for its party atmosphere, for sure.
Yeah, yeah, we do party a lot down there, especially those who don’t even go to college. I always had a knack of wanting to bring people together.
I’ve always been a people person or gathering people together and putting them in little areas for them to hang out in. So, when I got into my adulthood life, more 30s, leaving the telecom industry, I wanted to find something more invigorating, I guess one would say, and I tell people I got into this on a push from an ex-girlfriend and a cover letter. So that’s a really good punch line.
A push from an ex-girlfriend, and a cover letter. Now, I don’t know about anyone listening but I usually don’t think of cover letters as leading to anything fun. It’s one of the BS processes, or parts of the job finding process so you have to tell me about how an ex-girlfriend push and a cover letter brought you too silent disco.
Yeah, just like everything else in this world, you got to start from the bottom. I guess during that time in my life and it’s starting to get more look far off in the past, yeah, she was the one that encouraged me to or pushed me to be like, “Well, since you’re trying to figure out a new direction, why don’t you do what you love to do and bring people together?” That’s one thing, but then really told me, “Well, the only way possibly to get in is write a cover letter,” and since I didn’t have a resume professionally in event production, management, and coordination or hospitality, blah, blah, blah, all the other words, a cover letter was the best way. We were at an event in 20, I think it was 17, 2017, late ’16, she and I went to an event that had silent disco and it was used on a great scale in a way that was like, oh my God, this could be the future of everything. So, yeah, just one thing led to another and then, eventually, I started from the bottom with the top two second company or the first company, it’s up for debate, but I think it was the first company at the time of silent disco here in Denver, worked my way up, gained more and more and more hours over time, and eventually worked to 40 and, after that, split ways in 2019 to create my own company. So, yeah, there it is.
How long has silent disco been around? Because I don’t think this was around at the turn of the century, so when did it originate and become part of our culture?
That’s a great question. I wish I was ready for that question because I actually don’t even know that answer but I know it’s been around for a while. It started off as just one channel. It was one channel. Just one, and then rumor has it, through the grapevine, they said it possibly came out of London. It makes sense in my books because like electronic music in Europe was different and also I don’t think it was really strong in America but I’m not fully certain, please don’t write me emails on how I’m wrong on stuff. I think it started in Europe years ago and they were trying to overcome the noise ordinance there to throw private raves and things like that nature so they wouldn’t be discovered. Yeah. So that’s rumor passed down through the grapevine so, yeah.
So it was one of those someone somewhere might know the origin story and then, of course, it came to America and so 2016, 2017, you went to a silent disco party and that just inspired you to want to be part of this movement.
I saw potential in the technology, because we looked at it at the party aspect but I was looking at even more of like where else it could be inputted but creates levels, because I grew up kind of like a lone sheep bouncing between multiple different styles of friends. They never wanted to go where I wanted to hang out, all of them, at once so this was kind of like to me solving that problem.
Oh, yes. So, for example, if your friends are arguing, “I wanna go to this club,” “I wanna go to this club.”
A lot of people don’t give you off to other music, they like what they like, and where I grew up, it was rap, country music, and whatever is left over, but that’s what I experienced so it’s like I had a diverse set of friends but they were all kind of like bar-ry types so then they ended up like just chilling at the bar but didn’t really want to go to kind of like some of the grimy places that, let’s just say, ethnic people like to go to. That was pretty much it.
So it’s just like what silent disco is solving is taking three different genres and putting under one house where then you are exposed to more in a smaller space. This is why I believe like we shouldn’t build out, we should build up more, because then it condenses us all into one space to learn about your neighbor, forcefully.
Yeah.
I guess, yeah.
So you’re talking about urban design in a way, right?
Yeah, yeah, but in this —
Yeah.
Yeah, but in the architect of silent disco, layout bring us together.
Yeah. So, obviously, a lot of people have talked recently about the loneliness epidemic, the loneliness crisis, more and more people feeling like they don’t have friends, they don’t have people they can talk to, spending more and more time alone, do you see silent disco as part of the remedy to this?
I would say it can help. I’m not saying it’s a full remedy. I would say it helps in a way that we’re very anxiety ridden these days. For some people, it still is hard to get out and be around people. The world feels like it just definitely has more knives out on the outer sphere.
That makes sense. So, let’s get into your personal story. Now, you mentioned, first of all, the University of Arizona, which huge party school and then you went into the telecom world.
Shows and sales majority of my college life.
Yeah.
And I was in sales, I loved it up to a certain point. You can’t force people to buy something that you don’t believe in so they could see a hungry dog a mile away before you even try. So I was burnt out. Pretty much I did it for 10 years. I don’t like bureaucracy, I don’t like these metrics that don’t make any sense where like, “You gotta sell this much to blah, blah, to keep your job,” and, honestly, I was a little lazy back day because like nine out of ten times I just wanted to hang out until I got to Denver which really changed my life professionally, being more of a man and just navigating all, let’s say, the trauma in my life that I had to, you know, you got to figure out when you start growing up.
Yeah, we know about that, right.
Yeah, yeah. So, I went from like really switching gears from telecom retail sales to then like working for myself and that took a whole complete mindset change and I think that took, I think five years. I wish I arrived to it sooner because I would be a hell of a lot ahead more in my life on certain responsibilities and how to professionally go about things and how to even stand up for myself professionally too as well, making sure that certain boundaries are not crossed.
It’s crazy. So you worked in sales and telecom for ten years. Did you feel something off about your motivation, about the work culture that you’re talking about with everything being numbers and metrics and you’re saying to yourself, “Why do I care?”? Is that something you felt early on or is that something that creeped in over those ten years?
It creeped over time. I got strong beliefs towards like I’m more future based, just like you got to get rid of the old to place in the new, and, at the time, when I was growing up, internet, like when you sold — like people wanted internet more but like you worked for the telecoms, they want you to sell TV internet and home phone and I did not believe in home phone whatsoever. I’m like, “I don’t use home phone, you shouldn’t use home phone, you should move on and move on.” I’ve gotten like my sales hurt from it, like written up, like I’m selling, why are you writing me up? It didn’t make any sense to me.
It’s just something from the past and you were trying to — you wanted to sell what the customer needed as opposed to what they dictated for you to sell.
Well, not needed because in the sales world, sometimes you don’t even know what you need and I’m selling what I believe in, not what you believe in and I think it’s better for us as a society. Why would you want a TV? Because at the time, Netflix was coming up, Hulu was coming up, the online viewing was way better than waiting to sit and record your TV. I had no belief that TV would still stick around. Now, irony strikes, I actually do have a TV package but it’s an app now so it’s like it’s all streamed through the internet so it’s like that’s where everything should just be. So, I couldn’t justify sticking to that script. I also had a problem with not knowing the person who was running the company. I did not like the ant, like I felt like an ant in a really big churn, that didn’t sit well with me because they were making the rules for people down here which made no sense and I’m like, “I wanna be a part of it and affect the part of the wheel, not show up and clock in to maintain the wheel.” I don’t want to do that. I want to create the wheel and I wanted to really, like have a sense of purpose, and towards the end of my reign in telecom sales — reign, like I had an empire. Yeah, no, just at the end of it, I knew it too. When I went into that job, I was like I think I only would have six months until me faking it is going to start showing up. And, sure enough, it really did. I was pushed out because I was unmotivated. I was unmotivated. I already knew, like I just did not like the atmosphere I worked in and I didn’t like the situation on how things are affected and people weren’t listening so, yeah.
And I think that’s the thing a lot of people experience, especially working in some of those bigger corporate environments, is that there’s a big disconnect between the people making the policies that affect everyone and the people doing the day-to-day work, that some organizations don’t really have a great way of building that connection between the day-to-day work and what policies kind of make sense. And so if anyone out there listening is kind of in that situation, what would you encourage them to be thinking about at this point in time, if they’re saying —
Well, I should add to that, like this is what I should add to that, this is why a lot of the younger folks are in tech, it’s all about culture, at the end of the day, and I’m part of the generation when tech really started coming in and coming up and the traditional workplace started disappearing and it’s still around but they adapted because they realized it’s all about culture, and these companies, the last company I worked for, they were an old archaic company, they didn’t see the culture was really affected and I wanted to be a part of culture that I felt like I was a part of something and that’s the key is saying, it’s like when you are feeling deterred in your heart, then you definitely are right, you should move on, it sucks, for those of you who have families, I can’t relate because I’m not there but, yeah, you have a choice and you have to make it.
Yeah, for sure.
It’s better to do it sooner than later because the old school ways of how companies will rely — like they treated you well all the way up until you retired is no longer existing and I think that ended like five years ago, maybe six, because, everybody jumps ship so easily. Some of these archaic companies that still operate the same, even after pandemic, that’s still mind boggling to me.
Well, there’s a push with a lot of companies to start bringing people back to the office after the remote work thing worked for a while and I think there’s a lot of people who kind of really thrived under that old school work culture, you punch in at this time, you punch out at that time.
Well, don’t get me wrong, I’m not against working back in the office because, honestly, if you work in solitary and then you work out, you go out and meet, like hang out with people, your skills of connecting with people are very low so you definitely — I think it should be a hybrid schedule, you should work from home and work from the office —
Together with people.
Yeah. You got to have that — we’re communal creatures so we have to work or you’re just definitely going to go all castaway status if you don’t.
Yeah. Actually, I was coming down this a few months ago how we’ve actually set the world up now where, with all our food delivery and remote work, that someone could theoretically not leave the house for weeks and weeks on end if they really wanted to.
Right, yeah, yeah, and that’s, for me and my business, that’s a negative. That’s terrible because then I definitely want you to get out of your house, because I need you to show up to an event. We need to ease people back in and silent disco is definitely —
And you’re envisioning some people out there who maybe the pandemic happened and they’ve been at home for a long time and they lost some of those social skills, get a little bit of anxiety of being around people, but they can kind of ease into it by going out to an event where you could always put the headphones back on for that level of comfort around the music if something starts to get them a little bit antsy but then still have the opportunity to kind of interact with some other people, other people that are there dancing or just sitting and listening even.
Yeah, yeah. So this is why implementing this type of sound control level could be helpful for those people who are trying to get back into the society. So, yeah, going back to that, with integrating and forcing people to come back to work, honestly, it’s a good thing because for the future of collaboration —
The community?
— relations, relationship, community, it needs to happen. We don’t always need to be in front of our computer at home. I’m barely just getting back to like co-working with people and trying to do it on a consistent level where it’s like I could feel myself just pull me back to where it’s like I’d rather be alone.
And so, as an entrepreneur, do you have a co-working place, like do you have like a WeWork type of shared workspace that you go to sometimes or do you try to find other communal places like commons areas and stuff?
That’s a good question. I think I’m just a floating, like I’m a floater. Since I’m an event industry, it varies. I’ll just go to coffee shops and hang out but I’m actually going to be hosting some co-working space, silent disco co-working spaces this year so I feel like that’s the next level to help with that communal return back to office.
Oh, nice. For my audience benefit, what are these events going to look like?
Hopefully like a space like WeWork. We would show up and I would be working too, guys, just FYI, at a desk, and then just give you headphones. We already curated the three channels where you have choices, each channel has a different choice of music and it will be based off, I feel like it’s all mood based. I definitely want to go with like some LoFi, one LoFi Channel and then I think I’m going to do a metal channel, like I just want to a metal raging, because If you’re like feeling, and everybody knows who’s listening right now, you’ve had those days where you’re at your computer, you just like you feel like you are God at the keyboard because you are locked in so good that you are just like, “Yeah, let’s go.”
The flow state.
The flow state and, definitely, if I gave somebody some metal music, that would be hilarious. They’re like going off and then someone’s like, “So what are you listening to?” and it’ll be, “System of a Down, some hardcore.” I’m like, “Ooh.” That’s where my brain was going with that one. But, yeah, that’s just a little taste.
It would be funny to see, actually, people measure employee engagement by seeing how often people are playing certain channels on their headphones to indicate like how often they’re in a flow state.
I love that you said interesting because that’s the key word that always gets attached to silent disco. “That would be interesting.” Like I don’t know how many times, in every single sentence, “That’d be interesting. That would be interesting. That would be interesting. That’d be interesting.” Then the next step is like, “So would you do it?” They’re like, “Well,” they’re like still in the scared part of it where they’re like, “Yeah, maybe, no, it still would be interesting, like it’s a great idea but I don’t know if it would fit in my life.” That’s one of my key things and basically selling some of my clients, it’s like that aspect of like, “Oh, would you do it?” At the end of the other day, even though they like it, they’re like, “Would you do it?”
“Would you do it?” Yeah.
“Would you do it?” That’s like, “Maybe, maybe not,” mostly it’s maybe not so it’s got to be convincing or they’re forced into it.
Well, it’s still something new and people tend to be a little bit resistant to something that’s new they’re not really familiar with. And so, on this journey of yours, when you had that ten years in telecom sales, did you reach a breaking point that you realized like, “I can’t find a way to care anymore” or was there another process that kind of brought you from where you were kind of doing this, not really happy, to where you started thinking about and pursuing other things that were more in alignment with who you are?
I would have to say no because everybody isn’t searched to have or find purpose. And I, honestly, was a little slow at finding out the direction fully of where I wanted to land. I’m going to say this, by the way, just so people know this,
...it’s never easy to make the jump to something else. It never is. Click To Tweet
Yeah, for sure.
And don’t get it mistaken that I was like, hey, I turned around and was like I made it, I switched gears. No, it took time. Honestly, I left telecom actually in early ’16. I didn’t join silent disco until early ’17 or mid ’17, somewhere around there. It takes a different mindset to be in where I’m at today than where I was earlier. I wish I had that same mindset when I was earlier because I would fire the trigger quicker and jump to it. I was more afraid. I was basically very concerned. I wanted to leap into a guarantee and,
being an entrepreneur, nothing is ever guaranteed and you have to ride the fire and a lot of people don’t want to jump into that because that is a hard thing to do and it takes a mindset to switch. Click To TweetSo I had to switch my nine-to-five brain, which took years, and I’m just realizing that it actually took a long time to being a part of you have to go out there and make your own money, like there’s no guarantee to this. So thank God, during this time, Uber and Lyft existed and Uber, I transitioned to Uber full time, which taught me some things that actually entering small business, setting up my own business or entering entrepreneurship, that was the comfortable jump. If that didn’t exist, I don’t think I would have actually made the jump as well. My brain has an interesting relationship with money which then it prevents me to make certain decisions on a very not creative scale but comfortable scale. So, yeah, I wanted to put it that way because I don’t want the misperception of it was easy.
Everyone’s journey is different and I’ve covered stories on this podcast of people who just out of nowhere suddenly make the leap but other people who need, as you described, that comfortable jump, as you mentioned, that something provided you with a little bit of security so that you could kind of make a transition over time from your standard nine-to-five employee mindset to the mindset of an entrepreneur.
Yeah.
You mentioned how driving for Uber helped you with kind of just organizing your own schedule and figuring out how to like keep records and be consistent. What happened while you were doing that transition? Did you start transitioning the mindset before you started driving for Uber, when you were still doing the sales, or did Uber kind of push you to transition your mindset into that or were there other factors going on in your life, things you were reading things, people you were meeting, people you’re reaching out to that we’re showing you this new way of thinking?
Yeah, I’m going to pick option number three, to be honest. Yeah, other things affected that in my life. I came to realize, okay, so driving for Uber and Lyft, I did it more for the money aspect because I just did not want to not pay my bills. I had an obligation to other people within my house. The problem was I was doing it at every weekend, every day, and it’s just — everything in this world is balance. If you totally dump your chips into one basket, you’re putting it all on the table, it’s going to — and it’s not going to fare out for you in end, you’ve got to spread things around. But what I realized was, what I learned from Uber is I’m accountable to myself, I started realizing that the money and all that stuff, so I made sure I became very meticulous about like, not meticulous, very narrow — locked in focus on making sure to like when I do it, say no to a lot of things that I’ve missed out with my friends, to be honest, which, you know, that sacrifice but you got to take your wins where you take them. So a lot of the outside stuff that really started affecting me was managing my relationship, managing my friendships, understanding life’s aspect. I just became more of a manager over time. And then, also, the really common line towards the end too is like, it’s not —
the people you hang around is also what helps you elevate your mindset Click To Tweetand I started realizing where I stood with the people I hung out with, they were put together, they were access to more things, and what I started realizing is there was a consistency amongst everybody I was hanging out. First off, they went out there and did their idea. They really stayed consistent. They networked, they worked hard on what they believed in and they were very motivated. And so when I realized how, honestly, I said this earlier, how actually lazy mentally was and I started changing that, I realized like there was some mental walls that I had to really work on myself, yeah, it’s just one thing led to another and then once we eventually got to 2019 and went through COVID, I now truly have to say that, yeah, the man I was then to now is completely different and I definitely have to say I definitely know where I stand in my position —
Yeah.
— than back then, I actually did not, which that’s why know yourself and have yourself locked down before you really start pouring it into something that you really want to build in this world.
So was the people that you surrounded yourself with that encouraged you to do the work, as some people will say, to figuring out who you are, what it is you want to bring into the world, and developing the characteristics to see it through because nothing just comes to you, you have to do some sort of work to actually happen?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Sorry, millennials, but a lot of us grew up in a way that we thought the world should be handed to us. Now, granted the fact there are some people and we won’t go into that but they were handed stuff and for a majority of my life, I’ve had to work for a lot and, in my early days, I was complaining about it quite a bit because I was upset looking at some of these people who got handed stuff and didn’t really work for what they got necessarily, so my generation definitely expected that, and being a black minority, that wasn’t really like kind of a thing so, yeah.
Yeah, it wasn’t going to happen. It wasn’t just going to be handed to you.
Yeah.
I suspect the vast majority of the people listening to this program probably also have to work towards something; otherwise, you wouldn’t need the inspiration of me sharing these stories and these conversations with people so, yeah, but some people have said that having to work towards something, having to sacrifice a little bit does make people appreciate what they have a bit more.
Yeah, I would have to say that I do. I have appreciated or even looked back on things that I didn’t realize I didn’t appreciate and I do appreciate.
Now that you have your business up and running, you’re doing the silent disco, you’re experimenting with some other ways to bring people together, how well do you feel like you’re doing with regards to this balance that you were talking about?
Really have to say I’ve gotten better but I feel like I’m slipping too to the side where it’s like we’re just skipping in the meadows nonchalantly, not really caring a lot more. I think you’re never quite in the middle and in the balance zone. You’re either just the teeter totter sides of them, but, yeah, I’m on the side right now that’s like, “Well, see what happens,” which I feel sometimes, especially in adulting, I’m like, “Oh, that’s no good because that’s on me,” but at least I know the consequences now versus back then, I was like, “Oh, okay.” I’m going to say this to everybody,
...the imperfection is key, not perfection. We’ll never be perfect. You can strive for perfection and it will drive you crazy, but having a balance is perfection. Click To TweetAnd I used to be someone who wanted everything to be perfect because I thought that’s the way it was supposed to be so, yeah, now, I let that go and now I’m like okay but then I’m like slipping a little bit so I’m like I got to scoot back over here where you keep it in the just right zone so, yeah.
And those balances are things that we’re kind of always working toward, there’s always going to be something that slides out of balance or some external life event that pushes us out of balance, maybe you have a season in life where you’re working too hard and some of your self-care wellbeing stuff slips or maybe you have another season in your life when you go a little crazy partying and slipping up your health a little bit in some of those spaces so I feel like it’s always going to be a work in progress and also going to be something that’s never going to be perfect, as to your point about perfectionism, you’re never going to be in that perfect balance, there’s always going to be something that’s a little off on all the 10 to 20 to 100 different balances that we’re all trying to get to in our lives.
That’s the one thing I’m really happy that I have to say that I have really eased up on because that creates beating up on yourself. I still do it, we’re creatures of habits, but it’s not as bad, it’s now more aware of it. But, yeah, just try to look at imperfections and perfections and, honestly, that can create a good product.
And for balance, is there also an awareness factor? Because one of the things that we have quite a bit of in this world is these different types of numbings that we talk about, whether it’s alcohol, drugs, perpetually keeping your mind busy, always being on social media always being in front of screens, does that kind of get in the way of people becoming aware of what balances they need to work on?
Yeah. I’d have to say like we all have addictions and even if it’s not consumed by the physical form, the e-stimulus zone portion of it is, it’s very crucial, like I recently just got off of Instagram on my personal page. I feel better but being on this side of it too as well for events and marketing, I’m trying to find a new relationship with it so I can get back on there because I have to. Now, some people will say you don’t have to and it’s just like when I have to like market or talk about events and people are like wondering who the face of the company is, it’s like kind of like the socializing behind it so —
Yeah, for sure.
I would say I was an addict towards that. Digital consumption is definitely a problem for me and I have now come to realize that’s one of many things I have been working on over the years, which it has gotten in the way of balance and it has gotten in the way of work and it has gotten in the way of like certain things and even how the mind moves so, yeah, yeah, yeah, when you realize that something’s impacting you and you’re really far to the left on that spectrum side of the chart, then maybe you might have to ditch it and it’s hard and everyone’s like, “I’m trying to work towards it.” There’s no such thing as working towards it. You got to cut it hard and then stay away from it for like 30 days and then realize how it makes you feel, so, yeah.
So a lot of it is about trying things and seeing how it makes you feel, even a more general sense of like when people talk about, “I’m gonna start drinking more water,” or, “I’m gonna start giving up caffeine,” or, “I’m gonna start doing outdoor walks,” something that’s kind of been the rage a lot lately. There’s all sorts of things that people can try. Finally, I just want to ask, when it comes to developing the mindset of being the person that’s going to build the thing that you want to build and put it out there in the world and succeed with it, what do you think is the number one mindset thing that people need to let go of?
That’s a good question. I think everybody differs. It all depends. We’re now living in an age where one size doesn’t fit all and we’re starting to realize that. We should have realized it earlier.
Yeah.
I would have to say that if I had to say it in a one size fit all, it would have to be whatever is holding you back and down, and it could be an addiction, no matter what form it comes in, to make you think clearly because, at the end of the day, mental processing is key and to process and overcome and get jobs done and things like that, that’s crucial. And I know that humans like escapism when they’re not really feeling great and you need to balance your escapism because it too can become an addiction. And you have to face the reality or the truth sometimes, which is hard, so I think I just gave three points there but —
Yeah, for sure.
I have to say, I tried not to one size fit all —
For sure, yeah.
It’s easy to do so and I’m not saying I have not done that because I have done that and whatever advice to or whatever I’ve said, that like don’t — like I feel like we’re all guilty of it and we’re learning each day that comes.
Yeah. I mean, that’s the most important thing is to understand that everyone’s a work in progress and the real danger is giving up and when you stop working on yourself and that’s when you have the danger of getting into trouble, falling into a spot and being stuck in a spot that you don’t really want to be in and before you know it, all the opportunities of life have kind of passed you by. And so I definitely agree because that’s one of the issues I have with some of our, even our traditional work cultures, like the old school organizations is that they’re very one size fits all, we have to all do it the same way. Whereas whatever your operations are, there’s going to be a different mode that works best for one operation, a different mode that works better for another operation, the same way a different person’s going to need something different to pull themselves out of their ruts in life versus someone else. It’s just always going to be individualized and I’m glad more and more people are coming to realize it.
I want to add to that because it’s like people are going to need different tools to get to the same — they’re going towards the same conclusion or the same finish line but someone’s going to need more tools than the other person. We got to be fine with that by being open to the fact that you need to give more to them to complete the task and it’s not a bad thing.
Yeah, yeah. What everyone needs is going to be completely different but, of course, there are some people that, like it seems like what you’re alluding to is have a problem with the idea, is like, “Well, like why did he get that tool and I didn’t?” or, “Why did she get that and I didn’t?”
Well, no and yes. More like if we were all running towards that same finish line or — I wouldn’t say running, possibly trying to complete like a huge math problem. Someone’s brainpower is not as strong as someone else’s brainpower so they might need more time but if time is the measure of how we have to get there and get there at the same time, then what additional information would you need?
Yeah, how do you get that person —
Yeah, how do you get that person —
— across the finish line? How do you get the person to —
How do you get them to succeed? Yeah. How do you get them to succeed? And that’s the big thing.
Yeah, trying to get everyone to succeed, for sure.
Yep.
Well, Jason, thank you so much for joining us today on Action’s Antidotes, telling the story — I love the story about how the people around you in your life as well as, to a lesser extent, your experience with Uber driving helped you get from one mindset where you were kind of just doing things that really weren’t inspiring you with the telecom sales to where you’re building something that you really believe in, this silent disco, which is helping get more people out of the house which is something that quite a few people need today.
Yeah. Yeah. And, yeah, that’s all I have to say. And I have to say thank you for having me. It’s a pleasure. Great talking to you and hope to be back.
Yeah, for sure. I would like to thank all the people out there listening, tuning in to Action’s antidotes, whether it’s your first time or your 82nd time listening to an episode or maybe you listened to some episodes more than once, who knows, but I just hope you all resonate with these stories and I hope you all kind of think about your mindset because, really, your antidote to the mindset that keeps you selling for less, it’s really the mindset and it’s really believing that what it is that you want is something that you’re worthy of and it’s something that you can do as long as you’re willing to put in the work, put in the sacrifice, adopt some of the right time management principles and be around some of the right people that aren’t going to distract you or excessively take you away from what you need to do or tell you you shouldn’t be doing it and being around people just like Jason had with his friends that had their consistency and their things put together and were showing him some really good ways to do it.
Yeah. Yeah, that was great. That was great. Yeah, I totally, totally love that.
Well, I love that too and, hopefully, enough people love that to create a better tomorrow and I will catch you all next time.
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About Jason Gorley
Jason Gorley has been living in Denver, Colorado, for more than seven years. He has gone through mental hurdles to gain the knowledge to succeed in life and business. Realizing his abilities to strive as an entrepreneur, he went from corporate America to founding CiferNoise Productions – Denver Silent Disco Company, in five years.